'Allah' ban aimed to soothe Malay insecurities
YOURSAY ‘Bible should not be in BM just to allay Muslims’ fear?’
'Sure the Bahasa Bible is only for Christians?'
Rajakera:
Syariah Lawyers Association (PGSM) president Musa Awang, you are trying to bend your argument in favour of Jais (Selangor Islamic Religious Department).
Did the Selangor sultan approve the attempted entry into the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) building? We would like to sight the document.
Secondly, all Malaysians have been educated in Bahasa Malaysia since 1950s and most are unable to speak very good English.
The BN government has done a superb job in ensuring that Malaysians become illiterate in English, so most Malaysians (Malay, Chinese, Indian and others) speak and read mainly in Bahasa Malaysia.
Now you are telling us Malaysians that we are not allowed to have Bahasa Malaysia Bible because the Malays may read them too?
Grow up. You are ruining the name of Malaysia irreversibly with your childish tantrums.
It looks like the Malays are living under marshal law as they cannot read what they want and will remain stupid for the rest of their lives.
Anonymous_3e06: Musa, I hope you can think. Do you know that BSM is the place where they print and store the Bible for sale and distribution?
Do you know that non-Malays also read in Bahasa Malaysia unless you are coming from another planet?
Do you know we have a right to read in the Malay language? You must prove that I, a Christian, distributed my holy book to a Muslim in order to convert him or her. Go prove that.
Myop101: This is the most ridiculous statement by the president of PGSM. Please submit proof that Alkitab have been distributed to Muslims.
Otherwise, this is a clear case of fitnah (defamation). And you of all people should know what it means to fitnah .
Secondly, I suggest the government ban the use of Bahasa Malaysia among non-Malays to save them from getting into these entanglement.
Gravity: “Can we be sure that the Bahasa Bible is only for Christians? We all know that Malays are Muslims. So if the Bible is being distributed among Christians only, why has it been printed in Bahasa? Are there Malays who are Christians?’ said Musa.
Indeed, there is no benchmark for stupidity.
Haveagreatday: Is Musa for real? Or has he been hiding under his tempurung (coconut shell) for so long he does not know that Bahasa Malaysia is the national language for Malaysia.
When we get lawyers like him, we know our country is really going down the drain.
KT Lim: He’s a lawyer? People of other religions who, for scholarly reasons, may also read the holy books of different religions. A Muslim can also read the Bible for self-interest.
A Christian may read the Quran to widen his or her understanding of other religious beliefs and their doctrines or teachings. If your faith is strong, reading another religious book will never sway your belief.
Oriole: So while the nation is constantly being encouraged to use the national language, and to prioritise this, we have the Muslim lawyers questioning the use of the language?
Does this man think that BM is used only by Malays? His questions clearly show how out of touch he is with the rest of Malaysia.
Headhunter: So now are these Malay lawyers telling us that Bahasa Malaysia is to be exclusive to the Malays only and others are banned from using it? This country is really going to the dogs.
Fair Play: The more they try to justify an unjustifiable action, the deeper the hole they dig for themselves.
Musa, use your intelligence. Bahasa Malaysia is the national language of all Malaysians not just the Malay Muslims. Are you suggesting that the Bible could not be printed in Bahasa Malaysia just to allay your fear?
Fernz: The state law, being an inferior law, is null and void because of its inconsistency with the superior law, the federal constitution.
The sultan is not above the law. What he says is not law. Fatwa is not law and neither can it be imposed on non-Muslims.
Catholic weekly The Herald editor Father Lawrence Andrew is not the only one who said that Christians will continue to use ‘Allah’. The Sikhs made a similar statement. So far, no Sikh has been investigated for sedition.
Pemerhati: In some countries such as Malaysia, people get upset when anyone converts to another religion.
To ensure peace and harmony, the sensible thing to do is to have a law which prevents conversions to any religion until Malaysia reaches a stage where the people are sufficiently enlightened to think of religion as a belief, which one is free to believe or not to believe or choose any belief or religion they feel like believing in.
But Umno will not agree as for them religion is a useful political tool.
Negarawan: Sarawak Assistant Minister in the Chief Minister’s Department (Islamic Affairs) Daud Abdul Rahman said Christians in the state had been using Allah to refer to God for over a hundred years because the bibles there were in Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Malaysia.
“The Muslims are never confused about this and this does not bother us. After all, we all believe in one God," he said .
So Bahasa Malaysia is now exclusive to Malays?
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YOURSAY ‘Bible should not be in BM just to allay Muslims’ fear?’
'Sure the Bahasa Bible is only for Christians?'
Rajakera:
Syariah Lawyers Association (PGSM) president Musa Awang, you are trying to bend your argument in favour of Jais (Selangor Islamic Religious Department).
Did the Selangor sultan approve the attempted entry into the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) building? We would like to sight the document.
Secondly, all Malaysians have been educated in Bahasa Malaysia since 1950s and most are unable to speak very good English.
The BN government has done a superb job in ensuring that Malaysians become illiterate in English, so most Malaysians (Malay, Chinese, Indian and others) speak and read mainly in Bahasa Malaysia.
Now you are telling us Malaysians that we are not allowed to have Bahasa Malaysia Bible because the Malays may read them too?
Grow up. You are ruining the name of Malaysia irreversibly with your childish tantrums.
It looks like the Malays are living under marshal law as they cannot read what they want and will remain stupid for the rest of their lives.
Anonymous_3e06: Musa, I hope you can think. Do you know that BSM is the place where they print and store the Bible for sale and distribution?
Do you know that non-Malays also read in Bahasa Malaysia unless you are coming from another planet?
Do you know we have a right to read in the Malay language? You must prove that I, a Christian, distributed my holy book to a Muslim in order to convert him or her. Go prove that.
Myop101: This is the most ridiculous statement by the president of PGSM. Please submit proof that Alkitab have been distributed to Muslims.
Otherwise, this is a clear case of fitnah (defamation). And you of all people should know what it means to fitnah .
Secondly, I suggest the government ban the use of Bahasa Malaysia among non-Malays to save them from getting into these entanglement.
Gravity: “Can we be sure that the Bahasa Bible is only for Christians? We all know that Malays are Muslims. So if the Bible is being distributed among Christians only, why has it been printed in Bahasa? Are there Malays who are Christians?’ said Musa.
Indeed, there is no benchmark for stupidity.
Haveagreatday: Is Musa for real? Or has he been hiding under his tempurung (coconut shell) for so long he does not know that Bahasa Malaysia is the national language for Malaysia.
When we get lawyers like him, we know our country is really going down the drain.
KT Lim: He’s a lawyer? People of other religions who, for scholarly reasons, may also read the holy books of different religions. A Muslim can also read the Bible for self-interest.
A Christian may read the Quran to widen his or her understanding of other religious beliefs and their doctrines or teachings. If your faith is strong, reading another religious book will never sway your belief.
Oriole: So while the nation is constantly being encouraged to use the national language, and to prioritise this, we have the Muslim lawyers questioning the use of the language?
Does this man think that BM is used only by Malays? His questions clearly show how out of touch he is with the rest of Malaysia.
Headhunter: So now are these Malay lawyers telling us that Bahasa Malaysia is to be exclusive to the Malays only and others are banned from using it? This country is really going to the dogs.
Fair Play: The more they try to justify an unjustifiable action, the deeper the hole they dig for themselves.
Musa, use your intelligence. Bahasa Malaysia is the national language of all Malaysians not just the Malay Muslims. Are you suggesting that the Bible could not be printed in Bahasa Malaysia just to allay your fear?
Fernz: The state law, being an inferior law, is null and void because of its inconsistency with the superior law, the federal constitution.
The sultan is not above the law. What he says is not law. Fatwa is not law and neither can it be imposed on non-Muslims.
Catholic weekly The Herald editor Father Lawrence Andrew is not the only one who said that Christians will continue to use ‘Allah’. The Sikhs made a similar statement. So far, no Sikh has been investigated for sedition.
Pemerhati: In some countries such as Malaysia, people get upset when anyone converts to another religion.
To ensure peace and harmony, the sensible thing to do is to have a law which prevents conversions to any religion until Malaysia reaches a stage where the people are sufficiently enlightened to think of religion as a belief, which one is free to believe or not to believe or choose any belief or religion they feel like believing in.
But Umno will not agree as for them religion is a useful political tool.
Negarawan: Sarawak Assistant Minister in the Chief Minister’s Department (Islamic Affairs) Daud Abdul Rahman said Christians in the state had been using Allah to refer to God for over a hundred years because the bibles there were in Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Malaysia.
“The Muslims are never confused about this and this does not bother us. After all, we all believe in one God," he said .
So Bahasa Malaysia is now exclusive to Malays?
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