It was a pre-New Year's reunion dinner of my old posse, consisting of politicians, a former monk-turned-qi-gong instructor, journalists, activists and Debbie the junta-slayer.
By the time dessert arrived, the conversation turned, predictably, to the politics-of-the-day from the once-mighty's wearing new robes of NGO activism to the now-mighty consolidating their stocks and shares.
Then there was the case of the late Mr M Moorthy, and Colin had the last words.
"What did they (Federal Territory Islamic Religious Affairs Council) win? A body or soul?"
The answer to this question is obvious.